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  141st Gilead Gradution Talks 1st Part

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these grads.

  are a special people indeed.

  how on earth they put up with all this indoctrination is beyond me, months of intense brainwashing.

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  Half banana

  Baldeagle, I do think that the statement telling JWs to obey, "whether the instructions make sense or not," is a transparent cult manoeuvre to permit the leadership to mobilise the followers to do unpleasant or difficult things without the rank and file questioning it.

  It also has the effect of giving authority to the governing body by endowing it with a sense of divine importance to what is merely an instruction, which is just what the followers are looking for.

  The gb cultivate their flock to respond like Pavlov's dogs; salivation is not sinister but blind obedience to the JW org is.
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  141st Gilead Gradution Talks 1st Part

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these grads.

  are a special people indeed.

  how on earth they put up with all this indoctrination is beyond me, months of intense brainwashing.

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  Half banana

  Imagine:

  Three million people traipsing the Sinai wilderness being led by a cloud during the day and a pillar of fire at night.

  It never happened nor could it! You believe such a thing happened only if you are less than four years old. The whole of Watchtower teaching is fantasy fiction...........but it's good enough for the gb bozos to quote and base their life on it and try and force others to do so as well.

  Message from Jehovah's Witness's cult HQ: Don't think... OBEY!
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  The Debate Is Over...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for years theologians and historians have researched who the historical person known as jesus was and how much of the biblical account could be verified.

  countless books have been written going into great detail.

  this has been a controversial subject with some even claiming that jesus never existed.

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  Half banana

  Well thank you Rogue for pointing this out; that Jesus is the first accredited fictional character to actually come to life and start breathing. Astounding news!

  Surely if it is written in the hallowed columns of “Awake” magazine, simply put: it must be the definitive last word on the subject...however long or short the explanation.

  (Alternatively is it possible that it's just a teensy piece of thoughtless stale rehash of baseless propaganda cranked out from the Watchtower sausage machine?)

  I wonder?
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  Struggling a bit, guess it's to be expected...........

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  throughout this process since my wife and i disassociated just over a year ago i've been pretty positive.

  focusing on my new life, new friends, having fun, and living a good life.

  it's been great.

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  Half banana

  Don't despair you've only been out one year! It truly takes a while to let go those stupid boundaries and mental prompts implanted during years of Watchtower brainwashing.

  For the moment do keep questioning why you are doing things and more and more times it will be for a sensible purpose. You will refine your own viewpoint along with the needs of the family and it will have nothing to do with the JWorg.

  I think that having relied on JW thinking tends to suppress parts of our real self and those will re-emerge as time goes on. I think with conscious effort the old thought patterns will fade completely and you can rebuild an even more positive, wholesome, balanced and outward looking Dubstepped.
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  Is Watchtower now loosening the bedroom rules?

  by OneGenTwoGroups in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was at my assembly when this was discussed last week.

  of course i hadn't prepared and i heard "no rules about limits", or at least i thought i did.. here's the direct quote from the watchtower study article.. "although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.

  the watchtower (study edition) august 2016 : making christian marriage a success, paragraph 8.. what say you?.

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  Half banana

  Keep counting your money and stop thinking about people's sex lives you meddling old biddies in the governing body.
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  Do as I say, not as I do

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  and so it has come out that shami chakrabarti sent her son first to a prep school then on to prestigious dulwich college.

  both institutions feature entrance exams and fees (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3839975/shami-chakrabarti-embroiled-new-education-row-emerges-sent-son-18-000-prep-school.html).

  she joins other people of the left who oppose grammar schools but sent their own sprogs to selective, exclusive schools: polly toynbee, seumus milne, diane abbot and harriet harman.

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  If nothing else they value education as a prerequisite for a fulfilling life but hypocrisy is inexcusable. The politician speaks for the poor but acts like the privileged because privileged they are!

  Even the political left know that society is best served by good education. Eighty years ago it was the public school* intellectuals who supported communism until the disenchantment came with Stalin.

  *Note for those in north America; the use of 'public school' here in Britain perversely means 'private school' (that is public or fee charging school as opposed to the free of charge state school).
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  Millions now living will never die (orginally "may" never die) was the WTS lying

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was first said in 1918 and adjusted to "will never die" in 1920. of course, the wts taught that the anointed had to die to go to heaven; but there was no great crowd teaching then, so they were talking about all non-anointed people on earth.

  the wts members were known as bible students then and had been expecting the end in 1914 and it was adjusted.

  one date that was stressed at that time was 1925. so i think they idea was that people living in 1918 would be alive to see the end in 1925, which of course did not happen.

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  "Millions now living may/will never die"

  Pricks up ears, thinks: "What; never die?" I would like to know about this...Goes to meeting and finds hundreds of other punters duped into thinking the same way...

  It says it in the "Sacred revealed word of God; the Holy Bible written by the author who never lies!" The speaker said so, so hell! it must be true...

  ...............Or is it just the spiel of the snake oil salesman?

  Surely this is the whole JW story; the lure of everlasting life in paradise, join the culture of blind obedience followed up by crippling social penalties if you dare to change your mind.

  It was just the scam message from a Bible-cult folks................ heartily congratulate yourself if you have woken up and escaped!
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  New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

  by Danni Jackson in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

  you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

  basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

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  Half banana

  Hi Danni, thanks for visiting here, you are most welcome.

  The love JW`s show is conditional love
  

  as Smiddy says above. It only appears like "love" if you praise the governing body...the slightest whiff of disagreement and you will be unlovingly be cast out out on your ear.

  Real life outside the org has problems as well but there is no hypocrisy like religious hypocrisy.

  Honest said,

  be a true unconditional friend. Your friend will be feeling humiliated, degraded, ashamed and lonely. An act of loving kindness can save someone.

  That is real friendship
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  Introduction

  by robrog8999 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.

  in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.

  the name is robert.

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  Half banana

  Arguing about doctrine is like arguing with alphabet soup.
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  FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.

  eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.

  she died because of her religious principles.

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  Half banana

  So very sad for this family and if they are to wake up from their religious delusion in the future, how much more tragic it will be to realize that the death of their loved one was avoidable.

  The JW org should be held to account for all of the deaths encouraged by pushing the no-blood dogma with its reckless disregard for precious human lives.

  The world must learn how dangerous this cult is.